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armed law enforcement officers who twice engaged the shooters at columbine. that didn't prevent 15 from being killed and 23 wounded. >> mark, you know, the nra, we all know here in this conversation. it's been so powerful for so many years, in another day and age, lawmakers and the public might have listened to what he said yesterday, but this is now. what is different here in terms of his call for arming schools? will even be listened to? >> richard, normally the pr 101 is a group that seems to be under siege and of course, the nra was attracting a lot of negative attention and you typically make a concession or two, even if it's a fig leaf, just to be able to strike the right tone and make sure you're not on the wrong side of public opinion and on the wrong side whof holds the higher ground. you were just interviewing a woman who was a survivor of gun violence before the break and right now, particularly after the tragedy that we saw in connecticut, those people were occupying the high ground in this debate and it is going to be interesting how wayne lapierre answers the type of quest
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